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we have seen a trade deficit explode. take auto parts. ten years ago, the trade deficit was $1 billion with china on auto parts. today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at the urging of a number of us, they have taken china to the world trade organization to show china is cheating and to ask for tariffs to protect american companies and to protect american workers. and we're seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of american manufacturing, standing up for american workers against china. we have a new steel mill. we're seeing jobs actually come to this country or stay in this country because we're standing up and enforcing trade rules. >> romney and the republicans keep talking about another tax cut for the job creators. don't we just see them increasing their profits by outsourcing this way? i mean, the model that romney wants to lay on the country, how could it be good for workers in ohio? >> well, it's not. we tried these tax cuts for the rich. hoping it trickles down to the middl
we have seen a trade deficit explode. take auto parts. ten years ago, the trade deficit was $1 billion with china on auto parts. today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at the urging of a number of us, they have taken china to the world trade organization to show china is cheating and to ask for tariffs to protect american companies and to protect american workers. and we're seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of american...
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if it's deficit, the president the in a weaker position, because people just associate him with the deficits, with spending. that's been a very effective line for mitt romney. and it's actually going to be interesting to see whether jim lehrer subscribes to a beltway connection with deficits, and we see from those numbers, the president is doing poorly on deficits and he's winning the race right now. >> people vote more on jobs than they vote on deficits, despite the amount the beltway obsesses on it. ed, last word? >> the other thing about the deficit, this could rope the president into a very vulnerable position and get him into a conversation about what hays going to do if he's re-elected when it comes to the big three, medicare, medicaid, and social security. i mean, is he really going to go big? >> that's a big question. >> you bet it is. and if romney can get him into a position, saying he is going to go after those big three, i guarantee you -- the president already got a letter last week, tell us what you're going to do with these earned entitlement programs, whatever you want to cal
if it's deficit, the president the in a weaker position, because people just associate him with the deficits, with spending. that's been a very effective line for mitt romney. and it's actually going to be interesting to see whether jim lehrer subscribes to a beltway connection with deficits, and we see from those numbers, the president is doing poorly on deficits and he's winning the race right now. >> people vote more on jobs than they vote on deficits, despite the amount the beltway...
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i'm sure you didn't miss it. 15-point deficit for mitt romney. i'm guessing you'll argue with some parts. >> i'm not going to argue with it at all. do you really believe it's right? let me test your political wisdom. do you think it's possible for that to be right? you know it's a piece of garb e garbage? >> this is a good pollster, but you can argue that it's not 15%. do you believe mitt romney is behind in new hampshire? >> no, i believe it's head to head in new hampshire. and i've seen enough other polls to tell you that is a piece of garbage. this race in new hampshire will be won by mitt romney by two to three points. i'm willing to say that publically and stick by it and i know that it that poll of 15 points is absolutely invalid. >> every sort of professional poll i have seen of campaigns, though, all seem to have barack obama ahead and the big issue in new hampshire has been the gender gap with moderate women who may be the republicans fiscally but uncomfortable on social issues. you have had to navigate that before. that's always an issu
i'm sure you didn't miss it. 15-point deficit for mitt romney. i'm guessing you'll argue with some parts. >> i'm not going to argue with it at all. do you really believe it's right? let me test your political wisdom. do you think it's possible for that to be right? you know it's a piece of garb e garbage? >> this is a good pollster, but you can argue that it's not 15%. do you believe mitt romney is behind in new hampshire? >> no, i believe it's head to head in new hampshire....
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we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your difference and that's all he could come up with is something about the teachers. where's the national macroeconomic plan to get us out of these doldrums. >> i think he talks about education in a much different way as well. and not just talk about. he's done it. he talked about the "race to the top" tonight. as a fompbler urban school superintendent that's done more to reform schools across the country than anything else the federal government has ever done but there needs to be more than that as well. he's talked about manufacturing and ta
we went from deficit to surplus. and businesses did very well. >> you know what i hear and i hear it in the president's speeches, he's still working the interest groups rather than selling a national plan. he keeps talking about more teachers. he doesn't necessarily push education he pushes more teachers and he'll refurbish the school buildings. grant it the aft like it maybe your people like it but it isn't a national plan for economic development and tonight they said what's your...
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they were deficit financed in the first place. the president is counting on savings from last year when the white house and congress raised the debt ceiling. >> andrea mitchell reporting. lawrence o'donnell asked martin o'malley what president obama should do next time he faces mitt romney in a debate? >> i think the president has to keep doing what he's doing. be truthful about why he made the choices he made. keep talking about the fact we are moving forward, not back with positive job growth. he has to continue to press governor romney that he's not putting forth the specifics of how he would do the various things he promised. it is a choice right now between two alternatives. i think problem's is based on the reality of the decisions we must make together as a people if we want a better and stronger economy. don't miss lawrence o'donnell on msnbc, the place for politics. here is a look at other news. in south carolina, a viole attack caught on camera. a convicted robbery defendant surprised his public defender with a roundhous
they were deficit financed in the first place. the president is counting on savings from last year when the white house and congress raised the debt ceiling. >> andrea mitchell reporting. lawrence o'donnell asked martin o'malley what president obama should do next time he faces mitt romney in a debate? >> i think the president has to keep doing what he's doing. be truthful about why he made the choices he made. keep talking about the fact we are moving forward, not back with...
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the deficit number? >> probably the deficit. i think if you are the president's campaign you're less worried about romney's numbers right now. on the one hand the 40% right direction is the highest it has been in 3 1/2 years and any incumbent heading in that is momentum. 53% say the country is headed in the wrong track. i think this for the president is not about mitt romney. those advantages, chuck, on china, foreign policy and the deficit aren't as strong as for usual republicans. and the final point i would make is i think the important thing for this election is that braump has a 52 positive, 42 negative image. mitt romney has a negative image. only two have had a net negative image at this point and one of them loss, george h.w. bush and romney needs to improve that dynamic. >> democratic pollster. thank you very much to both of you. we have to get back in the field. let's keep poling. just two days away from friday's jobs report. we will get a quick preview on wall street on the market run down. and then we are taking a tr
the deficit number? >> probably the deficit. i think if you are the president's campaign you're less worried about romney's numbers right now. on the one hand the 40% right direction is the highest it has been in 3 1/2 years and any incumbent heading in that is momentum. 53% say the country is headed in the wrong track. i think this for the president is not about mitt romney. those advantages, chuck, on china, foreign policy and the deficit aren't as strong as for usual republicans. and...
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no taxes to deal with the deficit. is that the right thing? >> keep in mind, he made it very clear that unlike this president, who i have to like as a person. i know him well. unlike president obama, he wants to work with congress. he knows he's not going to get anything done if he doesn't work with congress. >> but he drew a line there. is that a fuzzy line? >> i'm with it on the line. one thing that has to be made very clear is the wealthy will be paying just as much as they're paying now. >> but they shouldn't pay more. >> i thought one of the best lines is that basically we're tired of trickle down government. and he turned the tables on the president. we have the president who believes it will government is the last answer to everything. do you think that is going to be a political liability in the state of florida? >> well, keep in mind, he brought up pretty forcefully that the president cut medicare. he also said that look, we are going to keep medicare exactly as it is for those 55 years or older. but we have to do something to help th
no taxes to deal with the deficit. is that the right thing? >> keep in mind, he made it very clear that unlike this president, who i have to like as a person. i know him well. unlike president obama, he wants to work with congress. he knows he's not going to get anything done if he doesn't work with congress. >> but he drew a line there. is that a fuzzy line? >> i'm with it on the line. one thing that has to be made very clear is the wealthy will be paying just as much as...
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we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave afghanistan? you don't think that the country is better off than we were four years ago as a whole, collectively? >> since you brought up the foreign situation, i think we are in a much worse position because the president withdrew from iraq and afghanistan without benchmarks that would be required to keep those countries stable when we leave. that's why we are seeing our people being shot by insiders in afghanistan. why things are breaking up in iraq. i don't think the world is safer because of what president obama has done. i think his foreign policy is very -- >> do you think we need to pull out of
we have increased deficits. we have had unemployment over 8%. the middle class is hurting. and i think he did, thomas, give specifics. he gave his five-point plan how he is going to create jobs in this country. >> but senator, you don't think that we are better off than four years ago when it comes to 43 straight months of job growth, the fact that the auto bailout worked? the fact we have drawn out of the war in iraq and we are now slowly trying to map out the course to leave...
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mitt romney, doesn't have a deficit reduction plan. he wants to spend $2 trillion more in defense, $5 trillion more in a tax cut won't tell us how you pay for, before you even start talking about deficit reduction. it's a joke to think mitt romney will actually take action to redaus the deficit. >> taxes, this week he did come out with this proposal of eliminating $17,000 in deductions. >> right. >> your response to that? >> well, you know, he left out a number of different details of that proposal but i would also say that limiting deductions to $17,000 for middle-class families still results in a tax increase. even in just the health premium deduction, for families last year, were about $15,000. there you go. what happens to the mortgage deduction, charitable deduction, child deduction. he's raising taxes on middle class families. >> if this comes up and mitt romney starts to do that math that paul ryan wouldn't do, i'm sure this will be a topic of discussion. >> how worried are you about the jobs report on friday? >> we face this ev
mitt romney, doesn't have a deficit reduction plan. he wants to spend $2 trillion more in defense, $5 trillion more in a tax cut won't tell us how you pay for, before you even start talking about deficit reduction. it's a joke to think mitt romney will actually take action to redaus the deficit. >> taxes, this week he did come out with this proposal of eliminating $17,000 in deductions. >> right. >> your response to that? >> well, you know, he left out a number of...
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the federal subsidy for pbs in 2012 doesn't make up a huge part of this deficit. for example, 2012, the federal subsidy for pbs was $444 million. if you compare that to romney's plan for the federal budget, you'll see how miniscule it is. pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked about this in the past, he's often thrown big bird under the bus. i don't know what would happen if he threw big bird under the bass. maybe the bus would go off the road. but never the let's, he has this little set piece he does. do you want to know what i'll cut? i'll cut pbs and big bird, the national endowment of humanities and the amtrak subsid
the federal subsidy for pbs in 2012 doesn't make up a huge part of this deficit. for example, 2012, the federal subsidy for pbs was $444 million. if you compare that to romney's plan for the federal budget, you'll see how miniscule it is. pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2...
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who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits. elmo's got to watch out. >> and vice president joe biden was campaigning in iowa saying that mitt romney flip-flopped on his own tax cut plan that was the center piece of the gop campaign and biden challenged the republicans on the tax issue. >> you know the phrase they always use, "obama and biden want to raise taxes by $1 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have the bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax raise. that's called fairness where i come from. >> and last night on "politics nation," jared bernstein explained to al sharpton that the math in mitt romney's tax plan doesn't add up. >> if you're going to cut taxes 20% across the board, which is mitt romney's plan, you're going to blow a $5 trillion hole over ten years in the government's revenue. now, what governor romney says is i can make that up by closing tax expenditures and loopholes, but there's t
who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits. elmo's got to watch out. >> and vice president joe biden was campaigning in iowa saying that mitt romney flip-flopped on his own tax cut plan that was the center piece of the gop campaign and biden challenged the republicans on the tax issue. >> you know the phrase they always use, "obama and biden want to raise taxes by $1 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so...
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who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut 1, 100th of 1% of the federal budget by cutting any subsidies that go to pbs, i don't know, i don't think he is going to get to that balanced budget with that. >> i don't think so. but he will stop those socialists muppets. the problem with the idea of cutting such a small piece of the budget with pbs is medicare and medicaid. he said that he would increase military spending so what mitt romney would be left with would be slashing a third of something else. that would be school lunches and veterans benefits. he would have to slash everything else in the budget. >> the politics of it is looney. going after something that is so popular for something that is such a tiny dollar cost it is not in the rounding era margins in the budget it is dangerous. peggy noonan is saying watch out for big bird. mr. romney gave a small difficult to the incumbents i think she is right. joy, this is a bad place for romney to go. >> this was the one bone to romney threw to the far r
who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut 1, 100th of 1% of the federal budget by cutting any subsidies that go to pbs, i don't know, i don't think he is going to get to that balanced budget with that. >> i don't think so. but he will stop those socialists muppets. the problem with the idea of cutting such a small piece of the budget with pbs is medicare and medicaid. he said that he would increase...
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we need to use the savings from ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan to help pay down our deficit and put people back to work doing some nation building right here at home. that's the agenda we need. that's how you strengthen the middle class. that's how you keep moving forward. that is the choice in this election and that is why i'm running for a second term. that's what we need. [ cheers and applause ] now, my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got an extreme makeover, but the bottom line is his underlying philosophy is the top down economics that we've seen before. he think that is if we just spend another $5 trillion on tax cuts, that, yes, skew towards the wealthiest, if we get rid of more regulations on wall street, then our problems will be involved. jobs and prosperity will rain down from the sky, the deficits will magically disappear, we will live happily ever after. even though he's been proposing this plan for months now, he's had a little trouble explaining just how it would work without blowing a hole in the deficit or making middle class fam
we need to use the savings from ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan to help pay down our deficit and put people back to work doing some nation building right here at home. that's the agenda we need. that's how you strengthen the middle class. that's how you keep moving forward. that is the choice in this election and that is why i'm running for a second term. that's what we need. [ cheers and applause ] now, my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got an extreme...
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of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't have enough time on sunday. that's too bad. that's terrible, in fact. i'm willing to cede, governor romney -- >> could jim lehrer get away with simply saying, i have a little liberty here, a little leeway, i will give you all the time it takes. tell us now
of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised...
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he's increased the deficit a trillion dollars a year. so let's start with the failures of this administration. mitt romney has said look, we've got to cut spending, we're broke, we've overpromised, we've overspent -- >> but sir -- >> and -- >> governor, where would he cut the spending. >> let's trust him on that. >> you cut a lot of domestic -- we've already got a plan to cut a trillion -- $1.2 trillion. half of it is balanced on defense spending in a time of war. that's a mistake. and so i think we need to cut trillions of dollars in order to get our budget balanced. and you could start with cutting two or three or 4% almost across the board some of the things that other governors have done, by i think you target it in those areas where the spending has not produced tangible results in the quality of life for the people. i can just tell you, andrea, i did it in virginia, governors like christie and scott and kasic and walker have done it in all of their states, mitt romney did it when he was governor of massachusetts, $3.5 billion defic
he's increased the deficit a trillion dollars a year. so let's start with the failures of this administration. mitt romney has said look, we've got to cut spending, we're broke, we've overpromised, we've overspent -- >> but sir -- >> and -- >> governor, where would he cut the spending. >> let's trust him on that. >> you cut a lot of domestic -- we've already got a plan to cut a trillion -- $1.2 trillion. half of it is balanced on defense spending in a time of war....
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and why didn't he, with plenty of room to maneuver, why didn't he go after mitt romney on taxes, and deficits and the accounting line? just seemed that there were so many opportunities that were missed that night. >> i don't think it was the president's best night, but i think one of the other big things that happened that night was the -- astonishing walking away or effort to walk away by governor romney of some of the most -- some of the key proposals he's been making for 18 straight months. you know, on the central issue of taxes, he's been saying every day for 18 months that he wants a 20% cut in marginal tax rates and he'll figure out a way that won't increase the deficit. well there's only one way to make that happen, that is to raise the tax burden on middle income americans. the number on his tax cut is $5 trillion. because he's talking about a 20% cut in marginal rates, eliminating the alternative minimum tax, estate tax and other deductions, $480 billion a year, $5 trillion over ten years, that's the number. then he says, you know, every day for the last 18 months, i've been talking
and why didn't he, with plenty of room to maneuver, why didn't he go after mitt romney on taxes, and deficits and the accounting line? just seemed that there were so many opportunities that were missed that night. >> i don't think it was the president's best night, but i think one of the other big things that happened that night was the -- astonishing walking away or effort to walk away by governor romney of some of the most -- some of the key proposals he's been making for 18 straight...
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job creation is also tied to spending and deficits. he gave us $16 trillion in debt. so while we do see an improvement in job creation, it's not what it should be. the red state governors are leading it. and if president obama were following their lead, the national mood and economy would be much, much better right now. >> do you think that conspiracy theories such as being said across the country right now, do you that damages mitt romney? it's getting a lot of play nationwide. it really is. you can't take that away. do you think that's damaging? >> people are entitled to their opinion. this is a free country. it's free speech. i personally accept the numbers as they are. we need to be talking about the issues. the facts, there are still over 20 million people out of work. gas has doubled under this president. >> okay. scott, let's move on to you. florida's unemployment rate stands at 8.8%, one point higher than the national average that came out yesterday. florida also tops the list of states. and some type of foreclosure process, 11%. has president obama done enoug
job creation is also tied to spending and deficits. he gave us $16 trillion in debt. so while we do see an improvement in job creation, it's not what it should be. the red state governors are leading it. and if president obama were following their lead, the national mood and economy would be much, much better right now. >> do you think that conspiracy theories such as being said across the country right now, do you that damages mitt romney? it's getting a lot of play nationwide. it really...
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you know, we've got investments to make, a deficit to close. so what the vice president was saying is that the bush tax -- we want to continue middle class tax cuts. the republicans want to hold them hostage so we continue tax cuts for the wealthy. that is a fundamental difference. by the way with today's economic news we should continue to make progress. one thing we can do right away is pass a middle class tax cut so that, you know, 98% of the american people will have the confidence that their taxes won't go up next year. very important for consumer confidence. very important for our economy. and, you know, governor romney ought to tell his running mate paul ryan to call up the house republican leadership of what he is a member and get this done. so that we can give security and a guarantee to the middle class of this country and our economy that taxes aren't going to go up next year. >> do you believe the fundamentals of this campaign have changed from wednesday morning to today? >> i don't think so, chuck. obviously though we'll be able to
you know, we've got investments to make, a deficit to close. so what the vice president was saying is that the bush tax -- we want to continue middle class tax cuts. the republicans want to hold them hostage so we continue tax cuts for the wealthy. that is a fundamental difference. by the way with today's economic news we should continue to make progress. one thing we can do right away is pass a middle class tax cut so that, you know, 98% of the american people will have the confidence that...
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if you're a republican and deficits with minorities and women, you need those white seniors to show up in large numbers for you. maybe they won't really understand that they fit into this category. there is a fair number of people who think this other people who are drawing on government subsidy in one way or another. but that vision part of this debate is going to be interesting because mitt romney has set himself up for some pretty difficult territory. are people on social security the kinds of voters that you are talking about, mr. romney, in this debate tonight, when you say government is paying too big a role in people's lives. that's a tricky one for him to walk out of. >> are the elderly moochers? he's going to have to answer that question. >> service members on disability? i mean same thing. >> coming on the heels of the romney campaign trying to use joe biden's biden-esque turn of phrase the middle class has been buried and you know, biden has walked that back, you know, is it an indictment of the president? look if you're going to fight for the ground on the middle class i do
if you're a republican and deficits with minorities and women, you need those white seniors to show up in large numbers for you. maybe they won't really understand that they fit into this category. there is a fair number of people who think this other people who are drawing on government subsidy in one way or another. but that vision part of this debate is going to be interesting because mitt romney has set himself up for some pretty difficult territory. are people on social security the kinds...
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the deficit is over 16%. that's the types of things i would start doing and on their brass tax facts that they can be using and we're making it vague and all of the things that we have in common as republicans with president obama but we do not. >> well, i mean -- look, debates are not just about landing punches. real people look at debates and say, what kind of a person are you? what kind of leader are you? what kind of person are you? if he doesn't communicate what kind of he person he is, no one is going to vote for him. >> meghan, she's like a straight shooter. >> i'm at my breaking point with this. and i like governor romney. >> we don't have to agree on everything but at least you're candid. meghan mccain and richard wolffe, thank you for your time tonight. as i've said before, this election is not about obama. it's about your mama. new polls show that the public thinks the big issue at stake on this election day, including medicare, social security, and our safety net. but, first, the right double stan
the deficit is over 16%. that's the types of things i would start doing and on their brass tax facts that they can be using and we're making it vague and all of the things that we have in common as republicans with president obama but we do not. >> well, i mean -- look, debates are not just about landing punches. real people look at debates and say, what kind of a person are you? what kind of leader are you? what kind of person are you? if he doesn't communicate what kind of he person he...
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. >> there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'll underline that, no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> really? okay. what kind of mileage does it get? >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> huh? okay. do the brakes work? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make this comment. >> nope. come on, mr. president, give us a peek under the hood. >> five week before the election he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle class a families are going to benefit too much? ♪ i guess you're just what i needed ♪ >>> we begin with the president criticized as being less than effective last night by hyperventilating pundits across the board, but now getting his own chance to put a spin on the first presidential debate
. >> there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i'll underline that, no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> really? okay. what kind of mileage does it get? >> number one, pre-existing conditions are covered under my plan. >> huh? okay. do the brakes work? >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. >> let's not. let's let him respond. >> i get the last word. let me make...
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. >>> when he was asked what he'd actually do to cut spending and reduce the deficit, his big example was to go after public television. for all you moms and kids out there, don't worry, somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out, too. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring down the hammer on sesame street. it makes perfect sense. >> that was president obama today blasting mitt romney on big bird. it's amazing. who would have thought that big bird would become the hot topic from the debate? in fact, big bird showed up at a rally today. it said, crack down on wall street, not sesame street. romney gave president obama lot of openings the other night. he industried tried to sprint fd right to the middle but ending up tripping autopsy over the truth. >> now, my opponent, he was doing a little tap dance at the debate the other night. trying to wiggle out of stuff that he's been saying for a year. doing like a -- it was like dancing with the stars. >> the president's right. romney tried to dance away from
. >>> when he was asked what he'd actually do to cut spending and reduce the deficit, his big example was to go after public television. for all you moms and kids out there, don't worry, somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out, too. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring down the hammer on sesame street. it makes perfect sense. >> that was president obama today blasting mitt romney on big...
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it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that keeps on giving. listen, if mitt romney doesn't produce a verbal or a physical gaffe tonight, then by and large, i think the republicans will probably say that he won. but, i think that
it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you?...
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. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it. color lock technology. exclusively from your benjamin moore retailer. find your perfect color with a buy one, get one pint offer. visit benjaminmoore.com/promo. >>> well, mitt romney is not backing off of his attacks of president obama's economic policies, no matter what the latest jobs report says. he told a florida crowd last night that the president is out of ideas and says wednesday's debate proved that. >> he got a chance to explain his jobs program. how he's going to create new jobs in america. did you hear what he had to say? i didn't either. i kept looking for a specific plan as to what he was going to do to cr
. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it....
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deficit now. we are seeing some tight thing in the race the totality of the entire poll, whether it is that 47% comment or what people have actually seen and heard about mitt romney the past two weeks was a pretty negative outlook. >> as i understand it and you've noted i believe in first read today this new romney ad, i want to play tax direct answer perhaps to those people in the public concerned about that comment. let me play it. >> more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. we should measure our compassion by how many of our fellow americans are able to get good-paying jobs, not by how many are on welfare. >> so, how does that answer the statement he made at that fund-raiser? >> tamron, it is an attempt. in fact, his second tv ad we have seen, an earlier one was a minute tv ad this is a short 3er 0-second one, trying to do everything they can to try to repair the damage. you have played it obama ad flag battleground states across the country where they are hitting a
deficit now. we are seeing some tight thing in the race the totality of the entire poll, whether it is that 47% comment or what people have actually seen and heard about mitt romney the past two weeks was a pretty negative outlook. >> as i understand it and you've noted i believe in first read today this new romney ad, i want to play tax direct answer perhaps to those people in the public concerned about that comment. let me play it. >> more americans live in poverty than when...
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you've got these crippling deficits, anemic jobs. you've got romney's plan to reverse that. on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other issues. i want to get to larger question, which is what is a romney foreign policy? what is going to be different about it than president bush's? less sort of the quote unquote freedom agenda? >> what you're going to have is a foreign policy that's been in the bipartson tradition of strength from kennedy and beyond. one that believes you need a strong economy. you need to have leadership. america's better off and the world is better off when america leads as "the washington post" editorial said today. there's a vacuum in syria. there's a vacuum in the middle east and forces unfriendly to the united states
you've got these crippling deficits, anemic jobs. you've got romney's plan to reverse that. on foreign affairs, you've got a failed foreign policy. yes, they've done more drone attacks, which is good. yes, osama bin laden is dead, which is good. but whether you deal with russia, china or throughout the broader middle east, you have a disaster. we saw that in the killing of the american ambassador in benghazi and a fundamental misunderstanding. >> i want to get to some other issues. i want...
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seems, was that the media is pushing mitt romney and paul ryan for specifics on their budget plan, on deficit reduction, but i believe it was haley barbour and others that say the president is not being held to that same standard, the example they bring up is that the president says 1 million jobs -- mitt romney said 12 million and he has not explained but nevertheless, they see this is not equal treatment. when the president is on stage domestic policy, will he be under more fire to talk about the direction of the country because the responsibility and the onus right now is on him being the incumbent? >> i mean, absolutely. here's the reality. if you look at this in terms of, you know, what i think is going to end up happening in this debate, both candidates are going to force -- are going to be forced to answer the gaps if you will. i think the difference is, romney's gaps are the size of the grand canyon. the president i think has laid out pretty clear specific agenda in terms of where he wants to go. plus he has a record that he can go back to. he has a record he has to defend. but romney
seems, was that the media is pushing mitt romney and paul ryan for specifics on their budget plan, on deficit reduction, but i believe it was haley barbour and others that say the president is not being held to that same standard, the example they bring up is that the president says 1 million jobs -- mitt romney said 12 million and he has not explained but nevertheless, they see this is not equal treatment. when the president is on stage domestic policy, will he be under more fire to talk about...
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>> when i ran for president, i said we could cut the deficit in half and we cut it by 60%. i said our economic plan would produce 8 minullion jobs and we created 10 million jobs. >> i can only tell thaw i don't think senator dole is too old to be president. it's the age of his idea that i question. >> abby, if the president ignores him and goes as clinton did in '96, does that neutralize what you think is a good debater in mr. romney? >> that's exactly what mr. obama has to do. he has to remain calm and look like he is the commander in chief that he is for the united states and if he can -- if obama can be just who he is, there's no way that romney can get the narrative that he actually wants. but if obama can be himself, then i think that he will be just fine. >> abby, neera, thanks for your time and i think you're right, if the president is who he is and mr. romney is who he is, i think that will work to the president's favor. we'll be right back. >> thanks. oh no, not a migraine now. try this... bayer? this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ m
>> when i ran for president, i said we could cut the deficit in half and we cut it by 60%. i said our economic plan would produce 8 minullion jobs and we created 10 million jobs. >> i can only tell thaw i don't think senator dole is too old to be president. it's the age of his idea that i question. >> abby, if the president ignores him and goes as clinton did in '96, does that neutralize what you think is a good debater in mr. romney? >> that's exactly what mr. obama has...
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we have this huge deficit. we have crumbling infrastructure in america, we have huge problems here, and we're a lot safer today on the afghanistan/pakistan border because of the drones. you know, it's not just that bin laden is gone. al qaeda's greatly, greatly weakened in that part of the world, so we're a lot stronger today than we were -- a lot safer from al qaeda than we were five years ago, ten years ago. so it's not that nothing has been accomplished, but having more troops stay there and try to win over the hearts and minds of the various tribes, it's tough in iraq, but it's even tougher in afghanistan. i think the president's done the rite thing, a clear deadline and we're getting out. >> to take you back home with the election coming up, what is your understanding of what the president would do in a second term to deal with the fiscal cliff and to help create jobs? >> i think you're going to see real leadership from the president from the get-go from the day after the election. i think that he believes
we have this huge deficit. we have crumbling infrastructure in america, we have huge problems here, and we're a lot safer today on the afghanistan/pakistan border because of the drones. you know, it's not just that bin laden is gone. al qaeda's greatly, greatly weakened in that part of the world, so we're a lot stronger today than we were -- a lot safer from al qaeda than we were five years ago, ten years ago. so it's not that nothing has been accomplished, but having more troops stay there and...
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according to experts he would have to raise taxes on the middle class or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here, how can we ever trust him here? >> joining the panel now, from obama's super pac priorities usa action, the money boo boo of the democratic party, former white house deputy press secretary bill burton. >> you could try senior strategist. >> we could but that would be so much less emasculating. anyway. bill, you know we're happy to have you on this program. >> glad to be here. >> let's talk a little bit about the president and sort of the strategy he is taking in the recent 24 hours. we know a couple months ago there was a sort of -- there was forking path. the president could characterize mitt romney as either a severe conservative or a flip flopper. it seems like in the last couple months they were straight ahead on the course of severe conservative. mitt romney was doing a lot of favors in terms of painting that picture. after the debates seems like we're back to this flip flopper thing and i will call to your attention "the new york times" saying
according to experts he would have to raise taxes on the middle class or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here, how can we ever trust him here? >> joining the panel now, from obama's super pac priorities usa action, the money boo boo of the democratic party, former white house deputy press secretary bill burton. >> you could try senior strategist. >> we could but that would be so much less emasculating. anyway. bill, you know we're happy to have you on...
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>> i want to get your reaction to the new finding that shows mitt romney leads on dealing with the deficit, the economy, while the president leads on a host of issues while looking out for the middle class. do you think joe biden's remarks about the middle class being buried will make the president's job harder tonight? >> the middle class has really suffered as a result of this economic downturn and frankly, president obama knows that. and he has been working to enact policies that will help the middle class. mitt romney's recent remarks about the 47%, he doesn't represent them. they're not going to vote for him. those are the people who have been hurt by this economy and they're the people frankly that president obama and the democrats in congress have been trying to work to help as we begin to come out of this recession. certainly tax cuts for the top 1% of americans are not going to help middle class voters. >> one thing i want to get your take on, looking specifically at your own state, colorado, our latest poll showing president obama with a five-point lead over mitt romney. 5 50-45%
>> i want to get your reaction to the new finding that shows mitt romney leads on dealing with the deficit, the economy, while the president leads on a host of issues while looking out for the middle class. do you think joe biden's remarks about the middle class being buried will make the president's job harder tonight? >> the middle class has really suffered as a result of this economic downturn and frankly, president obama knows that. and he has been working to enact policies that...
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who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits. >> sesame street taking center stage after romney said he'd cut subsidies for pbs do urg that debate. pbs released a statement saying, quote, governor romney does not understand the value the american people place on public broadcasting. paul ryan is getting outraged by the man who wants his seat in congress. ron zer bin raised $770,000 in the third quarter. to be fair, ryan stopped fund-raising when he accepted the nomination for vice president. he is still on the ballot and has 4 million bucks in the bank. >>> and who would play the president in a movie. michelle obama told the website pop sugar either denzel washington or will smith, and then she joked, will has the ears which might give him the edge. come on. now, we usually talk about fast food as the root of our country's obesity problem. but it sounds like americans are cooking up some fattening foods at home. the daily meal is out with the most searched recipes for 2012. it's our list today. at five, bread. yes, people do still make it at home. chocolate chip cookies, chocola
who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits. >> sesame street taking center stage after romney said he'd cut subsidies for pbs do urg that debate. pbs released a statement saying, quote, governor romney does not understand the value the american people place on public broadcasting. paul ryan is getting outraged by the man who wants his seat in congress. ron zer bin raised $770,000 in the third quarter. to be fair, ryan stopped fund-raising when he accepted the nomination for...
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the only other thing he mentioned was obama care, which adds $109 billion to the deficit. east cuts less than 0.1 of 1%. >> i don't want to be a bad moderator. let me get you in and move on to anne. go ahead. >> i want to thank keith for admitting his side believes in redistribution of wealth. we believe in cutting government spending. >> mitt romney doesn't believe that. your own candidate has taken both sides, and last night was not the mitt romney who campaigned for four months to win the republican primary. you know that as well as i do, and you steve, have been so honest in critiquing him should be more honest about his dishonesty last night. >> let me bring in anne on that. anne, back to the president and this incumbent curse. he didn't bring up the 47% and talk about bain capital outsourcing jobs, tax returns and offshore accounts. do you believe his campaign gave him that advice? why not use those weapons, and you don't compromise your likability when you were telling what you believe is the truth. >> well, i think you just put your finger why they didn't do it in
the only other thing he mentioned was obama care, which adds $109 billion to the deficit. east cuts less than 0.1 of 1%. >> i don't want to be a bad moderator. let me get you in and move on to anne. go ahead. >> i want to thank keith for admitting his side believes in redistribution of wealth. we believe in cutting government spending. >> mitt romney doesn't believe that. your own candidate has taken both sides, and last night was not the mitt romney who campaigned for four...
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one of those points taking issue with romney's claim that he would slash the deficit by trimming funding to public television, including big bird. of course, that's become a big laugh line now. president obama saying elmo better watch out. he also had a new line of attack today. he brought up the fact that mitt romney had essentially said his health care plan would include funding pre-existing conditions. that's a claim that the romney campaign has walked back. today president obama said that mitt romney was fact checked by his own campaign, so we're seeing a feistier more aggressive president obama certainly than we saw on wednesday night. >> and the president's advisers, kristin, say that they will likely make some adjustments before the next debate. is it fair to assume that the president may become slightly more aggressive at the next one? >> reporter: i think that it's a fairly safe assumption. one of his top advisers said they're going to take a hard look at the debate as they try to retool their strategy moving forward, but here is the main reason why i think that, martin. the nig
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deficit at least significantly by more tax revenue, you're in a pickle because you cannot say we're going to get more tax revenue at the same time and we're going to lower everybody's taxes. i mean, that's an inconsistency. unless you do what the first bush always talked about doing is we're going to grow the economy enough to make for t. we know what happened in the first bush administration. they didn't grow the economy enough. >> the truth about one of mitt romney's most galling lines in wednesday's debate after this. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> as we've been discussing, mitt romney consistently charges taxes to the president
deficit at least significantly by more tax revenue, you're in a pickle because you cannot say we're going to get more tax revenue at the same time and we're going to lower everybody's taxes. i mean, that's an inconsistency. unless you do what the first bush always talked about doing is we're going to grow the economy enough to make for t. we know what happened in the first bush administration. they didn't grow the economy enough. >> the truth about one of mitt romney's most galling lines...
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see how they affect massachusetts, our country and debt and deficit and vote. i am a reliable vote for the bill. >> theme of the evening, independence good, partisanship bad. >> vote about 50% with my party and 50% with the democratic party and that's a lot different than what professor warren would do to be in lock step. >> when senator brown talks here in massachusetts about how very bipartisan he is and end pent he is he's not saying the same thing when he goes around the country raising money in this senate campaign. >> aliens watching the debate could be forgiven for voting in lock step is a criminal offense. warren accused brown of consistently voting with republican leadership to block jobs bills put forward by the president while brown said compromise was a foreign concept to the ultraliberal warren. with all political events this evening not without its gaffes. >> can you name some republicans in the senate today that you are able to work with on big, substantive issues that the country face this is. >> probably richard lugar would come to mind. >> he'
see how they affect massachusetts, our country and debt and deficit and vote. i am a reliable vote for the bill. >> theme of the evening, independence good, partisanship bad. >> vote about 50% with my party and 50% with the democratic party and that's a lot different than what professor warren would do to be in lock step. >> when senator brown talks here in massachusetts about how very bipartisan he is and end pent he is he's not saying the same thing when he goes around the...
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let's assume they're true, let's say you can't do everything he wants to do without increasing the deficit and without increasing taxes on the middle class. what i think we will see is because i don't think there's a good answer to this conundrum he's in mathematically, he will kind of confuse the issue. he will talk in specifics that don't necessarily make sense. so as a political strategy, you want to sound specific and say, here, i'm talking about some detailed numbers, and people say that sounds like a pretty detailed plan, he's thought it through. martin, based on what i heard there, there's not an answer to the mathematical possibility of his plan working. the last thing i think he will do is just attack the study, attack the president's premise. >> of course. >> there's no fact checker on stage. you say that study has all kinds of problems. i think it's a pretty good study but i think that's how he will get out of it. >> dana, isn't there is problem that mr. romney's economic adviser has already suggested that if he cannot make the 20% tax cut payable by using deductions, well, then
let's assume they're true, let's say you can't do everything he wants to do without increasing the deficit and without increasing taxes on the middle class. what i think we will see is because i don't think there's a good answer to this conundrum he's in mathematically, he will kind of confuse the issue. he will talk in specifics that don't necessarily make sense. so as a political strategy, you want to sound specific and say, here, i'm talking about some detailed numbers, and people say that...
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who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits? >> mika, what were your thoughts about barack obama not being able to deliver a single line like that when he didn't have the teleprompter and yesterday reading what his staff wrote for him so effectively on that stage with 30,000 people. >> it bothered me. we watch this every day. it seemed like some people might have been screaming at the tv saying, why aren't you saying that right now to him? it seemed prepared. but maybe that's the strategy. it was not satisfying at all. >> you know, willie -- >> it's like they took a whole day to respond. >> he carries this around where people are waiting till the next debate to see -- >> yeah. >> what is the depth of his understanding of the policies that he's debating and that he's reading on teleprompters? because yesterday, as he was reading the lines off of that teleprompter, you sat there going, oh, my gosh, he couldn't say one of these things spontaneously on wednesday night. but he can read it pretty well off the teleprompter. it's like b
who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits? >> mika, what were your thoughts about barack obama not being able to deliver a single line like that when he didn't have the teleprompter and yesterday reading what his staff wrote for him so effectively on that stage with 30,000 people. >> it bothered me. we watch this every day. it seemed like some people might have been screaming at the tv saying, why aren't you saying that right now to him? it seemed prepared. but maybe...
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the deficit got much bigger after i left. unemployment today is 10.6%. when i left it was 7%. so i like arnold, i think did he some good things. and some things didn't work out. that can be said of me, it could be said of almost every california governor. >> over the last few months we've seen major cities like stockton and san bernardino as well in california, we've seen those cities go bankrupt. what does it say about the fiscal challenges facing municipalities throughout the country? >> well i think there's a lot of challenges to cities, counties, states and federal government. the short answer is we have to learn to live within our means. i'd like to say when you go do a restaurant and you look at the items on the menu, they all look great. but we don't order everything. if we order everything, we'll die, we can't digest all that. we have to make choices, i believe if we decided to live within 95% of what the revenue brought in today we can make choices that will affect about 95% of the things we can do. when i was governor, that would be just fine and we could rein in spe
the deficit got much bigger after i left. unemployment today is 10.6%. when i left it was 7%. so i like arnold, i think did he some good things. and some things didn't work out. that can be said of me, it could be said of almost every california governor. >> over the last few months we've seen major cities like stockton and san bernardino as well in california, we've seen those cities go bankrupt. what does it say about the fiscal challenges facing municipalities throughout the country?...
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in terms of what how far he will go in curbing the deficit. and addressing the fiscal cliff. and then, he will have an opportunity, he will have basically a whole new administration. his cabinet will be gone. most of the people that he relies on in the white house will be moving on. and so, there's an opportunity for him to really set a new agenda. if he wins by a big margin, which the polls suggest is possible, he'll be less, i think willing to change his operating style. but one of the major criticisms is that he hasn't reached out enough to capital hill. so you may see a president sending both signals of strength, but also offering the olive branch. and if he wins the hispanic vote, 70-30, which is possible, you might see a republican party suddenly willing to address immigration reform because they'll want to get that issue off the table. otherwise, they'll never win another national election. >> i want to advance the point that eleanor just made there, president obama, he's been criticized by some even in his own party, for not being as engaged with members of congress a
in terms of what how far he will go in curbing the deficit. and addressing the fiscal cliff. and then, he will have an opportunity, he will have basically a whole new administration. his cabinet will be gone. most of the people that he relies on in the white house will be moving on. and so, there's an opportunity for him to really set a new agenda. if he wins by a big margin, which the polls suggest is possible, he'll be less, i think willing to change his operating style. but one of the major...
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we are -- i must say we all complain and we want to see the deficit addressed but don't touch my program. however, if romney as a presidential candidate or as president stood up and said look we're going to have to discuss social security. what we're going to do we're not going to touch -- he has said this. not going to touch anybody who is currently receiving social security or those who are about to come in in the next year or so. but if you look the 48-year-old you won't be able to collect social security until you're 70 but you can get it then most will say that's a good deal. i didn't think i would get anything now. pundits say you never want to educate the voter at the last minute which makes it tough for him. i do think he has to be very strong as to what he is going to do, that these are serious issues that that his experience he shouldn't run away from his experience with bain. he should say look were some jobs outsourced yes, but they were going, any way. >> as governor of the state, a wife, a mom. talk about a role model. >> when i started out the kids were little and i wasn't
we are -- i must say we all complain and we want to see the deficit addressed but don't touch my program. however, if romney as a presidential candidate or as president stood up and said look we're going to have to discuss social security. what we're going to do we're not going to touch -- he has said this. not going to touch anybody who is currently receiving social security or those who are about to come in in the next year or so. but if you look the 48-year-old you won't be able to collect...